Thread: Black Hat SEO -- What Was Yours?

Nah I don't use any black hat tactics myself, though I'm not sure what any black hat tactics are. I don't hide keywords that arent relavant etc.

Well, thats cool, no problems with that, you'll be safe.

You want to exchange links with other web sites in order to get higher search engine rankings? So you want to create hundreds of auto-generated, keyword rich pages for your site?

Before you go and link to every website that is willing to exchange links, it would be a good idea to know where not to link to. Sometimes it can mean not linking to your own sites.

Firstly, lets take a look at the Google webmaster guidelines page which states:

Don't participate in link schemes designed to increase your site's ranking or Page Rank. In exacting, avoid links to web spammers or "bad neighborhoods" on the web as your own ranking may be affected adversely by those links.

I know that Google is not responsible for all search engine traffic, but it is a good guide to follow because other engines seem to be following along the same lines.

So what is a web spammer?

A web spammer is someone who creates hundreds or thousands of keyword rich pages in order to create the illusion of a themed site with related pages. These sites can be composed of sneaky redirect pages, doorway pages, gateway pages and now the latest craze seems to be auto generated directories. SEO circles call these types of pages "search engine clutter".

The Professional Web Spammer

The aware, professional web spammer places the search engine clutter on a secondary domain and looks for link partners. If you exchange links with these webmasters, you will be at risk of getting a penalty if one of those sites gets banned.

These sites are created on disposable (secondary) domains and they all link or redirect to a main selling website which does not link back to the spam pages. Usually, all the secondary domains link to each other too.

This professional knows all about not using the standard web page templates that come with the auto directory generation software. This webmaster is clever enough to realize that common templates will be easy to detect by search engines which means that the web spam site will get banned very quickly. This webmaster will rebuild the pages from scratch which is usually a good way to avoid detection.

The Amateur Web Spammer

The amateur web spammer, hungry for high search engine rankings will purchase software which creates search engine clutter and make the mistake of not creating a disposable domain to serve these new pages and they will use the basic easily detected templates to generate the web site.

They upload these pages to their main site and link to them. The problem with this is that if a search engine perceives these auto-generated pages as spam, it will penalize, the site that links to them as well as remove the clutter from the index.

Sometimes these sites do not get detected straight away which means that they could have a decent amount of Page Rank, but is it worth taking that chance? Your biggest challenge will be to develop the ability to detect these types of pages with the naked eye.

One Linking Myth Exploded

Please understand that you will not receive a penalty if web spam or a bad neighborhood links to your site. It is the other way around. It is only if you link to web spam or a bad neighborhood that you risk getting penalized.

There is much mistake regarding this issue. Look at it from a logical point of view. If this were true that you would get a penalty, all you would have to do to eliminate all your competition would be to create some web spam and link to your competitors. So it is plain to realize that you cannot get a penalty if web spam links to you. It's the other way around.

So what is a bad neighborhood?

I do not know how exactly to define a bad neighborhood because a bad neighborhood is not a bad neighborhood until it gets defined as such by a search engine. Examples include Free For All Links pages (FFA s), Link Farms and useless directories designed to do nothing more than create the illusion of a themed web site.

A good guide to follow would be not to link to any site which does not contain useful information or relevant content. More info about bad neighborhoods here: The Obsessive Compulsive SEO practitioner.

The obsessive compulsive SEO practitioner will go to any length to get top search engine rankings quickly. It is sort of like gold fever. The bug bites and it becomes difficult to let go of the insanity.

This webmaster is always looking for the easier softer way. The delusion is strong. The insanity has got a grip of the obsessive compulsive SEO. In the end, when they get sick and tired of getting banned, they swear off Internet Marketing altogether claiming that everybody in the industry is a rip off artist.

The problem is that they got exposed to rubbish before they discovered the good stuff. They have been permission marketed by someone they trusted and ended up wasting a lot of time. (and I do mean a lot of time)

Why not create a legitimate web directory?

Here is some good stuff. In the long run, it seems to me to be a lot easier to go to a script archive like hotscripts.com or scriptsearch.com and search for terms like "top list", "directory" "community" and "portal". These single one word search terms will produce many results which contain scripts which will do a much better job of creating a directory than the latest auto-directory generation software sold by Internet marketers who own big mailing lists of newbies.

Many of these scripts are free and there is some really excellent ones you can buy. The point here is that you can create a useful web site with these scripts which you will be proud to link to. The Black Hat SEO
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I don't use any black hat techinques...

Originally Posted by Amirmullick3

Well, they exist, so I guess its not entirely wrong to talk about them.

I mean to say that getting ranking for any website we need to do work hard and if we use black hat tactics then Google penalize any time.

I am not considered black hat techniques.

Nice explained information shovakoirala.

Though I know that I am not practicing black hat seo techniques, maybe there has been a time or two that I have done so by properly not doing my techniques or by overdoing it. The good thing is that, you can always learn from your mistakes and sort of having experience from those can guide you better with your techniques.

Originally Posted by jabo

The good thing is that, you can always learn from your mistakes and sort of having experience from those can guide you better with your techniques.

Correct!

That was an amazing post shovakoirala!

Every effort to make SE think our site is popular is black hat. Every some how uses black hat methods . But most descriptive methods such as keyword stuffing, cloaking should be avoided.

I dont know why you're so afraid of Black Hat, if you're smart it's difficult to get cauight, but not impossible... I use WH and BH and make good bucks each month...

There's a lot more advance BVH techniques that the one shovakoirala mention, this are old and basic BH techniques like hidden text on pages, etc etc

Originally Posted by wachapori

I dont know why you're so afraid of Black Hat, if you're smart it's difficult to get cauight, but not impossible... I use WH and BH and make good bucks each month...

but if you get caught then your site gets banned and that's really bad.

Originally Posted by kamalnisa

Every effort to make SE think our site is popular is black hat. Every some how uses black hat methods . But most descriptive methods such as keyword stuffing, cloaking should be avoided.

So you are not completely against of using Black hat methods except mentioned tactics.